honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 7:14:42 AM
1006 are you saying you're rooting for Pig Oil and Specutraitors?
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 5:35:31 AM
get on a roll
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 4:56:39 AM
gasokie: they will stay afloat while the rest of the economy is in the pits and the little guy is getting shafted.
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 9:37:20 AM
The guy that really gets bruised here is the independent gas guy. And remember, none of those oil companies have a meeting someplace where the words uttered are: 'How can we help the consumer today?" No it's m ore like "How can we make a profit today?" If they don't they will soon be out of business. Sort of like expecting a "speculator" to buy high and sell low. If he does that very often he'll soon be behind the counter selling beer.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 5:10:07 AM
Gigharbor: Specutraitors.
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pse91

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 1:02:28 PM
The only thing that matters is that the Futures Boy's pay a large price for gambling and losing. Make it big, big, big.
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numbers

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 6:15:02 AM
Great
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OTISFL

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 4:36:47 AM
Bald1usa---a very well written and informative post that you wrote.
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bcok

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 1:05:53 AM
Speculators, speculators, speculators.
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gumbyrex

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 1:00:25 AM
Investors? Don't you mean speculators.
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Bald1usa

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District of Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:49:45 AM
Why doesn't the price drop right away? Well, it is a little complicated but in a way simple, too. Let's look at from wholesaler to retailer to consumer. Your local retailer buys from a wholesale distributor, now some of these are owned by the oil company, but most are under contract (franchised)to carry a specific brand. Let's say that the wholesaler has a 100,000 gal tank. He fills it up @ $1.00 a gal and sells 20k gal in a day. When he orders the 20k from his supplier the cost is now $1.50 gal. Say he sells another 20K and he pays $2.00 a gal. He still has 100k gals of gasoline, but his cost per gal. is higher. The wholesaler averages the price/gal and passes it on to the retailer. Same thing when the price goes down. Because, the wholesaler is charged the current pricing.
The retailer has 10K gal of gas and is charged a higher price from the wholesaler...he averages the total cost of his gasoline and adjusts his pump price to recoup his cost of product. The cycle keeps repeating itself.
Now when there is a marketable change in the wholesale cost, either up or down, it takes a period of time for the average gal. price to fall/increase. The same holds true for the retailer, however, it may take a longer period for the retail price to average out and adjust. Mainly, because the retailer is not buying/selling in large quantities.
Most gas stations use automatic ordering systems. The tanks are equipped with with a reader that automatically orders each grade of product sold. The station no longer phones an order in. The product is ordered and sent automatically. The wholesale cost to the retailer is debited by the wholesaler from the retailers bank account.
A fried of mine owns a gas station, he says it is not uncommon when the price decrease is coming (at the wholesale level), his tanks are topped off quickly. He had three or four deliveries in two days. Of course, the wholesaler is getting rid of the more expensive product. That increases the time the retailer has to keep his price higher. Something else to note - since the wholesale purchase price is automatically from the retailers bank account...he has to retain enough money in the account to FILL his station tanks at all times.
Now this can be traced all the way back through the supply chain to the oil well head.
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DblChek

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:47:24 AM
Up, up, and away!! 2012
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:41:52 AM
another repeat......
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hubcapLA

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:27:53 AM
Yet gas prices continue to rise
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Vette1967

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Albany
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:23:24 AM
I don't see the gas prices lowering any.
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Zonk

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:22:08 AM
Looks like Speculators win.
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no8c

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:17:38 AM
Thanks for posting this article!
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:16:20 AM
What a crock. 252 days until the ejection.
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asog75

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:15:15 AM
only cheap gas is in couch coushions
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Ron77095

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:12:49 AM
ok.
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krobp46

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:11:12 AM
Hmmm, Crude goes down in price, and gas rises. What's wrong with this picture?
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:09:31 AM
Crude drops, gasoline rises.
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Thomtec

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:08:07 AM
ok
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Krykson

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:05:28 AM
Interesting
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Tundralimited2009

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:05:20 AM
Go Speculators
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:32:09 PM
The poor get poorer.
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:31:55 PM
Big Banks Big Oil Big Cov't Big Car Manufacturers
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:31:24 PM
It'll keep going up.
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:30:20 PM
Two steps forward and five steps backward
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heartbroken2010

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:08:43 PM
nothing like it , isn't there.
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big_mac64

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:08:07 PM
futures of oil is up 11% while gas in most places is up close to 20% or more! What's wrong with this picture?
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:07:40 PM
The price has just go up of 10 cents a liter. It's mean 40 cents a gal.
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billk44077

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:06:44 PM
Crude drops ... pump price skyrockets. WHAT A RACKET
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LoneGuy

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:05:37 PM
I don't know about Monday, but Tuesday in Michigan, home of the presidential primary, gas continued at about as high as $3.78 to $3.81.
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pastorpaulcg

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:05:31 PM
Ok
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:04:23 PM
so does that mean that prices will go down?
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herndonks

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:04:01 PM
Not investors, speculators.
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umitb

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:03:26 PM
ok
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dmgas1

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:02:44 PM
until the next round of buying
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ShutRBug

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:02:13 PM
It's a small start
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Alaydown

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:01:06 PM
If we had an energy plan that increased domestic production of oil, then the price would drop even more.
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:57:06 PM
UP..DOWN..UP..UP!
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kuma2000

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:53:17 PM
temporary.
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jessek

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:53:00 PM
Lets stop them.
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BooHooMI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:52:59 PM
love profit
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stopforgas

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:48:24 PM
Oil speculators should be jailed
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CaptDave2012

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:45:52 PM
When the stock market is UP my oil stocks are usually DOWN. So I lose at the pump while I also lose in the market, usually. I am way dumber than I realize!
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B_550i

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:42:23 PM
Hmmmm
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RAKARWOWSKI

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:42:22 PM
I wish this is how I buy oil.
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vtroger

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Vermont
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 10:42:00 PM
So if oil prices are dropping, gas prices should be too right?
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